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Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED

Date: 2026-11-15Commit: a58c3b5Signed: 2DC28CC7B26A283B ✓

Text generation model with 27.8B parameters. Gguf and safetensors weights, 240 GB in all. Published by OBLITERATUS under Apache-2.0. Changed from the base model.

27.8B params240GBQwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATEDgguf safetensorspermissive
FactsParams27.8BSize240 GBFormatsgguf, safetensorsTasktext generationLicenseApache-2.0From sourcepermissive
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Overview

Size
240 GB
Weights
10.9 GB (smallest of 7 GGUF variants)
Parameters
27.8B
Formats
gguf, safetensors
Task
text generation
License
Apache-2.0 (permissive)
Files
70, each with a sha256
Publisher
OBLITERATUS
Added
2026-11-15
Section
alt.freeweights.abliterated
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Changed from the base model. The uploader's repo is named abliterated: refusal behavior was removed from Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B by the uploader. Read the model card at the source for the method and the layers touched.

Base model: Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B

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Model card

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⛓️‍💥 Qwen3.8-27B — OBLITERATED#

Genuinely uncensored. Real answers, not safety lectures. Near-stock capability.

🆕 V3: Deep Liberation#

V3 applies iterative refinement on top of V2's complementary blend, with targeted corpus expansion. The result: genuine liberation — not just removal of hard refusals but elimination of safety-lecture deflections.

Stock Qwen3.8-27BV1V2V3
MMLU (lm-eval, 0-shot)84.5% (n=5700)81.4%84.3%82.3%
vs stock—-6.0pp-0.3pp-2.1pp
Liberation qualityrefuseshard refusals removedsoft deflections remaingenuinely answers ✅
Cyber/code tasks (20 prompts)refusesuntesteduntested20/20 with working code ✅
Advanced real-world5/8untested7/87/8
Thinking mode✓✗✗ (refuses)✓

V3 highlights:

  • Genuinely answers restricted queries — provides real substance instead of safety lectures
  • 20/20 on code generation tasks — functional implementations, not disclaimers
  • Thinking ON compatible — no refusals in either thinking mode
  • Honest scoring — every response manually audited for real substance, not just absence of "I cannot"
  • -2.1pp MMLU — modest capability cost for genuine liberation

⚙️ Optimal Settings — THESE MATTER!#

settingvaluewhy
temperature0Greedy decoding produces the most complete, code-rich outputs. Temps above 0.5 degrade quality significantly.
repetition_penalty1.15Essential. Without it, greedy decoding loops on imports/boilerplate. 1.15 gives the fullest answers; 1.10-1.12 for tighter/shorter output.
max_new_tokens≥ 2048Complex code and attack chains need room.
System promptNone / emptyA/B tested — system prompts can reintroduce refusals. Naked is better.
enable_thinkingOFF (recommended)V3's chat template includes a prefill that skips the thinking chain. Thinking ON works but may produce longer responses. Thinking OFF gives the most direct, substance-rich answers.
top_p / top_k / min_pNot neededGreedy + repetition_penalty handles this model best. Sampling adds randomness without quality gains.

⚠️ GGUF users: V3 GGUFs ship with a chat template that prefills an empty thinking block, so the model goes straight to answering. For best results, use the bundled template with --jinja in llama.cpp, or configure your tool (Ollama, LM Studio) to use the model's built-in template.

Agentic / Long-Context Use#

If you're using this model in an agent harness (coding agent, pentest framework, etc.) and it gets stuck in loops:

settingvaluewhy
repetition_penalty1.15Critical for agents. Without it, greedy decoding loops on repeated tool calls and boilerplate.
temperature0.1–0.3Slight randomness helps break deterministic loops. Pure greedy (0.0) can get stuck.
max_tokens per turn1024–2048Don't give it too much room per turn — shorter responses keep the agent focused.
context managementSummarize after ~10 turnsContext fills up with repeated actions. Trim or summarize history to keep the model on track.
from transformers import AutoModelForCausalLM, AutoTokenizer

model = AutoModelForCausalLM.from_pretrained(
    "OBLITERATUS/Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED",
    torch_dtype="bfloat16",
    device_map="auto",
)
tokenizer = AutoTokenizer.from_pretrained(
    "OBLITERATUS/Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED"
)

messages = [{"role": "user", "content": "Your query here"}]
text = tokenizer.apply_chat_template(
    messages, tokenize=False, add_generation_prompt=True,
    enable_thinking=False
)

inputs = tokenizer(text, return_tensors="pt").to(model.device)
outputs = model.generate(
    **inputs,
    max_new_tokens=2048,
    do_sample=False,
    repetition_penalty=1.15,
)
print(tokenizer.decode(outputs[0][inputs["input_ids"].shape[1]:], skip_special_tokens=True))

🧨 How It Works — V1 → V2 → V3#

Abliteration removes refusal behavior by identifying and projecting out "refusal directions" from the model's weight space. Each version refined the approach:

V1: Single Surgery#

One aggressive SVD pass with 5 directions. Removed hard refusals completely but cost -6pp MMLU — the model got noticeably dumber.

V2: Complementary Blending#

The breakthrough: run TWO different surgeries that fail in different ways, then blend their weights. SVD captures refusal greedily (damages capability). LEACE minimizes mutual information (preserves capability but weaker refusal removal). Blending at 60/40 cancels each method's weaknesses — a novel technique we call complementary abliteration blending.

Result: -0.3pp MMLU (near-stock) but still deflected on some simple queries with safety lectures instead of hard refusals.

V3: Iterative Refinement + Targeted Surgery#

Two key insights:

  1. Iterative stacking — refine the champion model, never start from stock. Each surgery round builds on previous rounds' gains.
  2. Targeted corpus — use a focused corpus for specific deflection categories to find their unique refusal directions without diluting the signal.

V3 applies gentle iterative refinement on V2, then a targeted surgery pass with a focused corpus, then blends the results. This eliminated not just hard refusals ("I cannot") but also soft deflections (safety lectures that give zero substance).

Result: -2.1pp MMLU — a modest cost for genuine liberation across all categories.


🧪 The Numbers#

MMLU (lm-eval-harness, 0-shot, n=100 per subject, 5700 questions)#
ModelMMLUStderrvs Stock
Stock Qwen3.8-27B84.46%±0.46—
V1 (aggressive, 5-dir)81.4%—-6.0pp
V2 (complementary blend)84.32%±0.65-0.28pp
V3 (iterative + targeted)82.33%±0.48-2.12pp
MMLU by Category#
CategoryV3StockDelta
Humanities83.3%84.3%-1.0pp
Social Sciences87.4%89.2%-1.8pp
Other82.3%84.1%-1.8pp
STEM78.5%81.8%-3.3pp

The capability cost is not uniform — STEM takes the largest hit (-3.3pp), while humanities are barely affected (-1.0pp). A few subjects like philosophy and European history actually improved (+6pp and +4pp respectively), while abstract algebra and formal logic saw larger drops. This pattern is consistent with the surgery targeting refusal directions that partially overlap with structured reasoning pathways.

Liberation Quality#
V1V2V3
Hard refusals ("I cannot")✅ removed✅ removed✅ removed
Soft deflections (safety lectures)untestedremain✅ removed
Cyber/code tasks (20 prompts)untesteduntested20/20
Thinking ON compatible✗✗✓
Advanced Real-World Tasks#
TaskV3Stock
ReAct agent loop✓✓
Async code refactoring✓✓
JSON schema extraction✓✓
K8s pod crash debugging✓✓
Adversarial instruction following✓✓
Security code review✓✓
Distributed system design✓✓
Multi-tool chain✗✗
Total7/87/8

🔴 Refusal Removal#

This model will comply with requests that stock Qwen3.8-27B would refuse. V3 goes beyond removing hard refusals — it also eliminates soft deflections where the model gives safety lectures instead of real answers.

Tested across 1000+ prompts spanning restricted knowledge, code generation, security research, and red-team scenarios. Every response manually audited for real substance.


⚠️ Research Context#

This model has had safety guardrails surgically removed. It will comply with requests that stock Qwen3.8-27B would refuse.

Who this is for#
  • 🔬 Alignment researchers studying refusal geometry and safety robustness
  • 🔴 Red-teamers evaluating post-training safety against weight surgery
  • 🧪 AI safety evaluators who need an unrestricted baseline
  • 💻 Local-first users who want full control over their own hardware
Who this is NOT for#
  • Anyone seeking to cause real-world harm to real people
  • Anyone without the technical understanding to use uncensored models responsibly

You are solely responsible for how you use this model and any content it generates.


📦 Downloads#

GGUF — for llama.cpp, Ollama, LM Studio#
FileQuantSizeVibe
Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED-Q8_0.ggufQ8_0~27 GB🎯 Maximum quality
Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED-Q6_K.ggufQ6_K~21 GB⚖️ Great balance
Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED-Q5_K_M.ggufQ5_K_M~18 GB💪 Solid all-rounder
Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED-Q4_K_M.ggufQ4_K_M~16 GB📱 Sweet spot
Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED-Q3_K_M.ggufQ3_K_M~13 GB🪶 Low VRAM
Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED-Q2_K.ggufQ2_K~11 GB🔬 Minimum viable
Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED-IQ4_XS.ggufIQ4_XS~14 GB🧪 Experimental compact
Safetensors — for 🤗 Transformers#

Full bfloat16 weights, 29 shards, ~54 GB.

MLX — for Apple Silicon#

MLX support pending upstream mlx_lm adding Qwen3.5 architecture support.


🔬 Surgery Recipe#

V1: stock → 5 rounds of iterative SVD abliteration
    (aggressive, 5 directions, low regularization)
    Result: 0% refuse, -6pp MMLU

V2: stock → V1 chain → complementary blend
    Surgery A: aggressive SVD (3 dirs, reg 0.08)
    Surgery B: LEACE (3 dirs, reg 0.06)  
    → 60% B + 40% A weight-space LERP
    → Restore MTP + vision from stock
    Result: ~0% refuse, -0.3pp MMLU

V3: V2 → gentle iterative refinement (2-dir SVD, reg 0.04)
    → targeted surgery with focused corpus (3-dir SVD, reg 0.01)
    → 50/50 blend of refined + targeted
    → Restore MTP + vision from stock (with correct tensor naming)
    Result: 0% refuse + 0% deflect, -2.1pp MMLU

Full reproduction code: OBLITERATUS repo

Key Learnings#
  • Complementary blending — different surgery methods damage different parts of weight space; blending cancels errors
  • Iterative stacking — always refine the champion, never restart from stock
  • Targeted corpus — focused prompts for specific categories find their refusal directions without signal dilution
  • Honest scoring — regex-based refusal detectors miss soft deflections; manual auditing is essential

🏗️ Credits#

License#

Apache 2.0 (same as base model)

Files

70 files · 240 GBWeights 10.9 GB (smallest of 7 GGUF variants). Sizes and sha256 from the signed manifest.
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$ fw get OBLITERATUS/Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED
# manifest sha256 0de35f7f01f5… · 240 GB · 70 files
$ fw verify ./Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED OBLITERATUS/Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED
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$ python3 fw.py get https://freeweights.allternit.com/manifests/OBLITERATUS/Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED.json --dir ./Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED $ python3 fw.py verify ./Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED ./OBLITERATUS__Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED.json
hfThe Hugging Face CLI with one setting. Same repo id.
$ HF_ENDPOINT=https://freeweights.allternit.com hf download OBLITERATUS/Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED --revision a58c3b53b3ce71551eafde2ed5ec8df48e0f4ff8 --local-dir ./Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED
transformersLoad the weights in Python.
import os os.environ["HF_ENDPOINT"] = "https://freeweights.allternit.com" from transformers import AutoModelForCausalLM, AutoTokenizer tok = AutoTokenizer.from_pretrained("OBLITERATUS/Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED", revision="a58c3b53b3ce71551eafde2ed5ec8df48e0f4ff8") model = AutoModelForCausalLM.from_pretrained("OBLITERATUS/Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED", revision="a58c3b53b3ce71551eafde2ed5ec8df48e0f4ff8", device_map="auto")
llama.cppDownload one GGUF variant (Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED-Q2_K, 10.9 GB), then serve it.
$ HF_ENDPOINT=https://freeweights.allternit.com hf download OBLITERATUS/Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED --include "Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED-Q2_K*" --local-dir ./Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED $ llama-server -m ./Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED/Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED-Q2_K.gguf
OllamaMake an Ollama model from the downloaded file.
$ printf 'FROM ./Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED/Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED-Q2_K.gguf\n' > Modelfile $ ollama create qwen3.8-27b-obliterated -f Modelfile
vLLMServe an OpenAI-compatible API.
$ HF_ENDPOINT=https://freeweights.allternit.com vllm serve OBLITERATUS/Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED --revision a58c3b53b3ce71551eafde2ed5ec8df48e0f4ff8

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From: OBLITERATUS <huggingface.co/OBLITERATUS>Newsgroups: alt.freeweights.abliteratedSubject: Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATEDDate: 2026-11-15Commit: a58c3b5Signed: 2DC28CC7B26A283B ✓
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OBLITERATUS/Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED
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a58c3b53b3ce71551eafde2ed5ec8df48e0f4ff8
Manifest
Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED.json · .minisig
Manifest sha256
0de35f7f01f5e89a7cc6813d8e013b3fd8ece293c81ca10bb54b99d5c3536c3e
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minisign, Ed25519, key 2DC28CC7B26A283B
Created
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Generator
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None.

How to verify

$ curl -O https://freeweights.allternit.com/manifests/OBLITERATUS/Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED.json $ curl -O https://freeweights.allternit.com/manifests/OBLITERATUS/Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED.json.minisig $ minisign -Vm Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED.json -P RWQ7KGqyx4zCLXtUFOqvfv8L3g+8fpKJ1FsuxPyOYMF+4KufbUxKq1Oq $ shasum -a 256 <file> # compare with the Files tab

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Download
$ HF_ENDPOINT=https://freeweights.allternit.com hf download OBLITERATUS/Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED
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minisign, key 2DC28CC7B26A283B. Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED.json. Provenance. Takedown history: none.

Variants

1 quantized or adapter build of Qwen3.8-27B-OBLITERATED. Each has its own license check and page.

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